tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post242211540728893574..comments2023-10-10T14:43:29.795-04:00Comments on Brooklynguy's Wine and Food Blog: WBW 37 - Indigenous Grape VarietiesBrooklynguyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16321573602782343974noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-28265367420528120352007-09-28T12:16:00.000-04:002007-09-28T12:16:00.000-04:00"It's the Chenin Blanc wines that are so shatterin..."It's the Chenin Blanc wines that are so shattering to me." This sums up my feelings, too; although after I crumble into a heap of joy, I am instantly reassembled, and the world has become fresh, and more than it usually is. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the Closel report!Wicker Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15976225032244371755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-34978455722960201382007-09-18T20:21:00.000-04:002007-09-18T20:21:00.000-04:00hey bottles - glad it's helpful to you. there are ...hey bottles - glad it's helpful to you. there are good south african chenins, and if you want more info on them go through some NY Times tasting panel columns - they did one within the past year. i am personally not familiar. those i have tasted did not compare in quality at the same price to the chenins of the Loire. i think chenins are great in any season, really. maybe vouvray is more spring, but i would say that savennieres is a winter wine, in a way - its intensity can work with stews and cold weather dishes. but i drink them all year round without blinking an eye.<BR/><BR/>thanks for stopping by.Brooklynguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16321573602782343974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-23487698933016369052007-09-18T15:39:00.000-04:002007-09-18T15:39:00.000-04:00hey there, wine novice here... very helpful post o...hey there, wine novice here... very helpful post on Chenin Blancs... how would you compare French Chenin blancs with South African ones? dr. vino also mentioned how chenin blancs were great springtime wines - would you agree?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-37442962356330624912007-09-17T21:15:00.000-04:002007-09-17T21:15:00.000-04:00Hey Steve - To me the baby diaper gel and lanolin ...Hey Steve - To me the baby diaper gel and lanolin refer to the same smell, and now that you say wet wool...that rings a bell too - probably the same smell. I've seen all three descriptors written before. My bias,. as a Brooklynguy with an 8 month old, is for baby diaper gel. And I would definitely gab whatever you can from CLosel in 05 - amazing stuff. Thanks for comments. <BR/><BR/>Hey Barefoot - no problem. Thanks for reading.<BR/><BR/>Joe-Am i really that predictable? So sad...Brooklynguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16321573602782343974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-82477162078917110402007-09-16T21:57:00.000-04:002007-09-16T21:57:00.000-04:00I knew you would go to the Loire! Nice choices - I...I knew you would go to the Loire! Nice choices - I love the Papillon, but I have not tried the others. Cheers!Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07747056255576335926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-48386686804569326502007-09-16T04:21:00.000-04:002007-09-16T04:21:00.000-04:00Thanks for sharing this articles.Thanks for sharing this articles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-62920714169891781902007-09-14T21:29:00.000-04:002007-09-14T21:29:00.000-04:00Baby diaper gel--now that's an evocative descripto...Baby diaper gel--now that's an evocative descriptor! Spoken like a true father. I'm not familiar with that product but I know what you mean by lanolin--sometimes I think of wet wool. <BR/><BR/>Great notes. Makes me want to hunt for the 2005 Closels, which have not yet appeared anywhere that I know of in Northern California. I'm no expert but sometimes I read that 1995 was better than 1996 in the Loire, and sometimes I read the opposite. I think I have, like, 2 bottles from each vintage--maybe this calls for a tasteoff. In any event, I've read that great strides have been made in the quality of winemaking at Closel over the past decade, so maybe your 2005s will enjoy longer lives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-65222396788178653992007-09-14T15:24:00.000-04:002007-09-14T15:24:00.000-04:00Hey David - I think this was more a case of aging ...Hey David - I think this was more a case of aging the "wrong" cuvee. A '95 Clod du Papillon would probably be doing fine. And 96 was supposedly a better year out there than 95, right? I can't comment on German Rieslings - I'm an ignoramus in that department. But I agree that Savennieres is totally the bomb, the equal even to white Burgundy in power, interest, charm, and intensity. <BR/><BR/>Hey Alex - See, this is why I basically do not buy wine at Astor. Hard to beat their booze prices, so if I want a fancy bottle of rye or something, they have good prices (and they can't screw up booze). For wine, I really think I'm done with them. Clearly they have inadequate quality control, as those bottles should not be on the shelves. <BR/><BR/>Hi Russ - I really liked the 04 Jalousie too, but I think the 05 is even better - great balance. I will take a look at your article. Thanks for your comments and for stopping by.Brooklynguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16321573602782343974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-9938678369472269492007-09-13T22:51:00.000-04:002007-09-13T22:51:00.000-04:00I think Savennieres is one of the great undiscover...I think Savennieres is one of the great undiscovered values in the wine world - really Chenin Blanc in general. I thought your comments on the 05' were particularly interesting as I just had the 04' La Jalousie and absolutely loved it. It's interesting to hear quinine - I find there are so many interesting flavors in Chenin Blanc and the range is truly incredible when you taste something like Coteaux de Layon which is the same grape. If you are interested to read about my 04' experience check out this article - it sums things up nicely I'd say. I suppose the only downside is that we had a very odd tasting bottle as well, but with far less age than your 95'. <BR/><BR/>http://www.debonairmag.com/chenin_blanc_and_savennieres_wines_.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-36236979595516933752007-09-13T19:11:00.000-04:002007-09-13T19:11:00.000-04:00You know, I tried the same '95 La Jalousie from As...You know, I tried the same '95 La Jalousie from Astor, and endured much the same skunkfest. Tasted even worse the second day. Unlike you, I wasn't savvy enough to save some and take it back to the store. When I did complain about it to the buyer at Astor, he told me that he thought the wine had been spoiled by the ammonia-tainted corks that had fouled many of the '95 white Burgundies. I'm not sure I buy the explanation, but as you describe, the Jalouise was quite dead and sherry-like; it's hard to believe a mere ten year in bottle would have done that to a good Savennières. In any case, he promised to take the bottles off the shelf, but when I returned a couple of weeks later, there it was, a whole rack of Closel's 1995 La Jalousie, the $28 price tags dangling off the necks. Frustrating.<BR/><BR/>Alex<BR/><A HREF="http://thecheaplush.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">thecheaplush.blogspot.com</A>The Cheap Lushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18394598909486020238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-29700583359010324352007-09-12T22:03:00.000-04:002007-09-12T22:03:00.000-04:00Nice notes, Neil. I'm not holding any older bottl...Nice notes, Neil. I'm not holding any older bottles from Closel, but I have drunk '95's from Baumard and Soucherie over the last few years. The last bottle from Soucherie was still holding in there but definitely starting to fade. <BR/><BR/>On the bright side, I have a decent handful of '96's from, again, Baumard and Soucherie which, based on last look, still have a long life ahead of them.<BR/><BR/>To my palate, only the greatest German Rieslings can give Savennieres a run.David McDuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03274955351036700406noreply@blogger.com