tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post8261833676986149618..comments2023-10-10T14:43:29.795-04:00Comments on Brooklynguy's Wine and Food Blog: Burgundy Price Sadness, Champagne as ConsolationBrooklynguyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16321573602782343974noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-71710155235525515122014-05-06T16:28:19.860-04:002014-05-06T16:28:19.860-04:00It's a pity to find great burgundy wines at th...It's a pity to find great burgundy wines at that price now in new york. Even if prices are steadily growing up in France too, surely not in these proportions. one good example here of Nuits Saint Georges 2009 less than 30 € per bottle : http://www.le-bourguignon.fr/cote-nuits/239-nuits-saint-georges-2009.html<br />Cheers from France !<br />Gus<br />Gusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-90576957958333864682013-12-07T11:10:37.991-05:002013-12-07T11:10:37.991-05:00This thread is probably mordant at this point. But...This thread is probably mordant at this point. But for the record, this link helps explain things. Note the amazing decline of wine production in France over the past dozen years. <br />http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/23c6cf00-4d3c-11e3-9f40-00144feabdc0.html#slide0<br /><br />As well, of course, folks anticipate very small supplies coming out of the recent small, weather related, Burgundy harvests.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-6615757501305202342013-11-11T21:58:58.567-05:002013-11-11T21:58:58.567-05:00I have been in the wine business for about five ye...I have been in the wine business for about five years now. The company I work for does not specialize in Burgundy. I have heard many people talk about their Burgundy experience with great awe like they are traveling back to the happiest sip in the world. Sadly, since the price of Burgundy is so high, I have not gotten my chance to dive into the category. Some day...Tori Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-49284712393940328542013-11-09T10:07:59.807-05:002013-11-09T10:07:59.807-05:00on the wine blog Wine Berserkers, under the thread...on the wine blog Wine Berserkers, under the thread Maison Ilan 2013, someone posted the cost of buying pinot noir grapes in Burgundy: prices are up between 50 and 100% over the past four vintages....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-57293689786782694842013-11-08T18:19:01.777-05:002013-11-08T18:19:01.777-05:00I agree with Cesar, Spanish wine shave the best va...I agree with Cesar, Spanish wine shave the best value. Price and quality are both fair! William Myershttp://everifybackground.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-55102583912810400292013-11-07T14:37:00.731-05:002013-11-07T14:37:00.731-05:00I am a big fan of the Spanish wines I think they d...I am a big fan of the Spanish wines I think they do have value, so who knows cava becomes a more popular alternative?Cesar Leehttp://wsplugins.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-51406544710331653672013-11-07T13:16:03.913-05:002013-11-07T13:16:03.913-05:00Replying to Martin's good question to my remar...Replying to Martin's good question to my remark about the European economy....Here's how I, an economic doofus, think about it. European labor has to be very cheap and fuel prices are fairly stable. Just today, it was announced that inflation is effectively non-existent in the Eurozone and we all know what Bernanke fears here. So, costs should be pretty constant, and what then usually drives price would be, as you say, demand. Of course, with little inflation that just means higher profit margins for someone (producer, importer, distributor, seller?) and higher real costs for consumers, some of whom, like BG, loyally have bought and helped establish that market but are now being priced out of it. Moreover, I'm suspicious about demand across the board. Yes, Chevillon has international appeal, but when all the smaller geeky wine prices get raised more than the rate of inflation someone's cashing in at the expense of the folks who helped make that market. I know that's capitalism, but this is a lot more important: this is wine! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-36247988436541377872013-11-07T10:09:37.898-05:002013-11-07T10:09:37.898-05:00Thanks for shifting focus to a different region th...Thanks for shifting focus to a different region that I haven't given enough attention. I agree that some Premier Cru ('10 Clos des Ducs $250) has left me out and that is discouraging.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886340043364881537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-41712918345316559052013-11-07T04:15:49.355-05:002013-11-07T04:15:49.355-05:00Value is in Italy and even loire.
Don't get t...Value is in Italy and even loire. <br />Don't get this 'beyond what's justified by the European economy.'... The stuff sells like hotcakes the world over what has the eu economy got to do with it?<br />Martinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-4525950035932004562013-11-06T22:04:31.046-05:002013-11-06T22:04:31.046-05:00Pian is also like 14% now..
Barthod's Bons Ba...Pian is also like 14% now.. <br />Barthod's Bons Batons and Felettig's Blanc are bonkers for sub $50. Pataille, Vincent, VV Chambolle from VirgileAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02804324010841585094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-31684175923166737812013-11-06T18:38:14.268-05:002013-11-06T18:38:14.268-05:00I was also surprised and saddened by that CSW emai...I was also surprised and saddened by that CSW email. The good news is that there are some bargains to be had today if you go back-vintage - I was able to stock up on some 08 Cailles for $75. <br /><br />I wouldn't say the door is closing on Burgundy, but it is closing for many wines I love. <br /><br />Thanks for the Champagne recommendations! I really enjoy the posts where you talk about what you're drinking and make recommendations. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12159732214649407126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-3839932062390434002013-11-06T17:39:19.394-05:002013-11-06T17:39:19.394-05:00These Champagnes are exciting, but at the $75 leve...These Champagnes are exciting, but at the $75 level, isn't there a broader set of superlative wines from Piemonte? But for a few producers, many cru Barolo and Barbaresco can be had for that price or less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-13910193431622455522013-11-06T11:27:43.761-05:002013-11-06T11:27:43.761-05:00Ouch. My go to German online store sells that 11 C...Ouch. My go to German online store sells that 11 Cailles for $90 so quite a lot it seems to cost to put it on the shelves of a NY store, Germany being still a bit more expensive than France of course. I reckon come the January discount sales it will be about $75. Nice Champagne picks btw, although I'm not familiar with the Savart. Need to check that out the next time in the region.ilbehttp://pienetilot.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-16742455667960076752013-11-06T09:32:55.980-05:002013-11-06T09:32:55.980-05:00I share your feelings of sticker shock at Chevillo...I share your feelings of sticker shock at Chevillon and I, too, am reluctantly done with it. But it seems like throughout their lists the geeky importers--KL, BW, NR--are raising their prices (maybe not quite so much LD) beyond what's justified by the European economy. For example, Montevertine's fairly modest base Chianti, Pian del Ciampolo, is now ~ $30, which, in Brooklyn Guy currency, is approaching the range of some grower Champagne.... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-71954580339091375502013-11-05T22:46:29.792-05:002013-11-05T22:46:29.792-05:00red chassagne, white burg 1ers from matrot, pernot...red chassagne, white burg 1ers from matrot, pernot, bernard moreau, mikulski, white mercurey, boillot 1er mercurey.<br /><br />bottom line though, italy is way undervalued. barolo, brunello, aglianico, (classic rioija) are the steals of the wine world.<br /><br />vintage port and sauternes as well.AndrewRhttp://buddyhead.comnoreply@blogger.com