tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post7819837504887991893..comments2023-10-10T14:43:29.795-04:00Comments on Brooklynguy's Wine and Food Blog: Dinner with the Wines of Savigny-lès-BeauneBrooklynguyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16321573602782343974noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-37330745974745171892010-03-07T20:20:27.053-05:002010-03-07T20:20:27.053-05:00BG
For a good BioD calendar check out the Stella N...BG<br />For a good BioD calendar check out the Stella Natura put out by the Kimberton Hills Camphill Village in PA. We use it every year on our farm.<br />Not very expensive either.<br />Best<br />BrianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-20361691811656524882010-03-07T09:24:11.402-05:002010-03-07T09:24:11.402-05:00Too bad about the Ampeau; seaweed can be present a...Too bad about the Ampeau; seaweed can be present as an aromatic signature in his SLB even when younger but it still sounds like you might have had a bad bottle. At around the 15-year point, which ironically happens to be right around when Robert and now Michel have historically released their wines for sale, each bottle of their wines (especially the reds) starts to take on a life of its own.<br /><br />In general, I've found the Volnay-Santenots to perform much better with longer-term aging than the SLB, Pommard or Auxey-Duresses. The better bottles of the '76 V-S (which is still available on the retail market) can be truly beautiful, though they'll set you back 2-3x the price of your '90 Savigny.<br /><br />As for Epoisses, even though it's often recommended as a pairing with red Burg, I find it works better with white Burg, Meursault in particular.<br /><br />(serwoof)David McDuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03274955351036700406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-17419837667466440772010-03-07T01:58:10.502-05:002010-03-07T01:58:10.502-05:00Sounds like a fun night despite the wines' poo...Sounds like a fun night despite the wines' poor showing. So sorry I missed it. <br /><br />Recently opened a 2001 Chandon de Briailles Pernand from Ile des Vergelesses, and it was ashy and dismal. Didn't make me eager to revisit the "library."Alex Halberstadthttp://thefastertimes.com/wine/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-69301821505391298222010-03-06T16:31:51.515-05:002010-03-06T16:31:51.515-05:00You know, despite what seems to be the prevailing ...You know, despite what seems to be the prevailing logic, here and elsewhere, I have great luck with burgundy. It seems a lot of the game is knowing when your wine will be in its window timewise (and I don't mean root days and leaf days). I doubt most of these '07's will show their best for a few years. Not great agers, but probably good four to five years from now for most of the Bize and Pavelot 1ers. I like '06 - '07 bourgogne rouge now, 2000 and 2001 for lesser 1ers. <br /><br />But that said, some like the early fruit thing, but that is where I have the worst luck. Inevitably I find them closed down. Of course I really find the best bet for me is if it worth buying it is worth buying in threes or more so that you can follow it. Actually I like four lately, try one right away and use that as a marker for when to go at the other three. I think burgundy takes some effort in that sense. And while other wines also benefit from this approach, burgundy suffers the most from a more haphazard assault. Good evidence of this is found in the wines that you found to be excellent on day two. <br /><br />Sounds like a good tasting in any case. For real interest, perhaps it would be great to revisit in five years. Worth the $ is a different story though!Michael Powersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-43759406646725025972010-03-06T14:19:02.692-05:002010-03-06T14:19:02.692-05:00rollin is where it's at in pernand.
I find bot...rollin is where it's at in pernand.<br />I find both pavelots (2 or more domaines?) and chandon de briailles rather boring when compare to neal's producer. Also, they use a whole lot of pinot blanc...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-67335280691869998332010-03-05T20:49:32.572-05:002010-03-05T20:49:32.572-05:00The rest of the magnum of '96 Pavelot was oxid...The rest of the magnum of '96 Pavelot was oxidized; it was stewy and the fruit was not vibrant at all... but then again I think that, unless it's a young, structured wine, red Burg is just straight up better on day one. Rollin makes the best Savigny I've had except for a single transcendental '02 Chandon de Briailles village Savigny...Sophieb.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-58690391951367694602010-03-05T19:00:41.370-05:002010-03-05T19:00:41.370-05:00Cory - i heard Rollin is good - i'll try some...Cory - i heard Rollin is good - i'll try sometime.<br /><br />TWG - that would be AWESOME. email address is in the profile page of the blog. thanks again.Brooklynguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16321573602782343974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-72806888036014949352010-03-05T18:08:52.799-05:002010-03-05T18:08:52.799-05:00I use the Thun North American biodynamic sowing an...I use the Thun North American biodynamic sowing and planting calendar. The times listed are Eastern US, which is much less confusing than a UK wine biodynamic calendar based on the Thun calendar. <br /><br />One downside to the calendar is that approximately 25% of days are devoted to each of the four type of days: fruit, flower, leaf and root. This reduces the number of desirable drinking days, something I hadn't considered until I got the calendar and started looking at which weekend days were fruit or flower.<br /><br />If you like I'll email the relevant parts of the calendar to you.TWGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02592548268341500443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-15535618639561535692010-03-05T18:05:39.903-05:002010-03-05T18:05:39.903-05:00I would recommend checking out Rollin as well.I would recommend checking out Rollin as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-45963555493747688622010-03-05T17:30:07.683-05:002010-03-05T17:30:07.683-05:00hey Jon - i've seen Forme du Limosin there, in...hey Jon - i've seen Forme du Limosin there, in fact, I cut this cheese on my last shift. i remember liking it. <br /><br />TWG - thanks for this info. What resource do you use for this information? I'm tired of bad showings of good wine on root days. I want to start checking the biodynamic calendar for myself.<br /><br />and on Époisses with wine - i at this point almost never have any red wine with cheese, but that's just the way it worked out the other night.Brooklynguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16321573602782343974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-49338771840991320802010-03-05T17:08:35.534-05:002010-03-05T17:08:35.534-05:00M T W of this week were root days. Supposedly Lea...M T W of this week were root days. Supposedly Leaf days can be good for wine older than 5 years. Today is a fruit day til 9 PM and Sa Su are leaf days. BTW Hugh Johnson considers the Epoisses (wonderful cheese esp runny) a poor match w/ aged Burgs.TWGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02592548268341500443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3799854524070158890.post-11291702286858460902010-03-05T11:45:09.519-05:002010-03-05T11:45:09.519-05:00Thanks for this BG. I've had almost zero luc...Thanks for this BG. I've had almost zero luck with affordable Burgundy. I've actually had even less luck when store owners help me pick. The best thing about eating at nice restaurants is help with Burgundy. Ate at Le Bernardin recently and while the food was below (very high) expectations, the Nuits St. Georges was stunning.<br /><br />I have a cheese recommendation for you: Forme du Limosin. At the Coop. I'm pretty sure it's mispelled, because I can't find any information about it. Fantastic stuff. And you know the Coop, once it's gone, you'll never see it again, so stock up.Jon from Bklnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12563900822764359540noreply@blogger.com